{"id":15134,"date":"2015-09-06T16:02:51","date_gmt":"2015-09-06T20:02:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/?p=15134"},"modified":"2022-08-24T07:31:23","modified_gmt":"2022-08-24T11:31:23","slug":"nope-thats-not-by-marcus-aurelius","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/nope-thats-not-by-marcus-aurelius\/","title":{"rendered":"Nope, That&#8217;s Not by Marcus Aurelius"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_15134\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"15134\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/www.quotehd.com\/imagequotes\/authors1\/marcus-aurelius-soldier-everything-we-hear-is-an-opinion-not-a-fact.jpg\" alt=\"Not Marcus Aurelius\" width=\"200\" \/><span class=\"dropcap\">A<\/span>n image appeared on my Facebook feed one day purporting to be a quotation taken from the Roman emperor and philosopher, Marcus Aurelius. Having read his <em>Meditations <\/em>more than once in multiple translations, I was baffled because it didn&#8217;t look at all familiar or even sound like him. But was it a new translation?<\/p>\n<p>The quote is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Everything we hear is a opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s a good line, even if a tautology (the statement is itself an opinion), but I can&#8217;t find it in any online version of the <em>Meditations<\/em> or in any of my own print versions. And you can guess it wasn&#8217;t his because there is no book or section identified (authentic\u00a0quotes have sources that identify the exact location in a work).<\/p>\n<p>Using unverified quotations like this only discredits the person who posts them. And drives me crazy trying to discover the actual source.<\/p>\n<p>In the <a href=\"http:\/\/classics.mit.edu\/Antoninus\/meditations.mb.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MIT version of the Meditations<\/a> (George Long translation), the word <strong>perspective <\/strong>doesn&#8217;t appear even once, although the word <strong>opinion<\/strong> appears 67 times. I laboriously went through all 67 instances to make sure it wasn&#8217;t simply a different translation, perhaps a nuancing. None match, even closely. I also went through the <a href=\"http:\/\/truthofself.com\/?get_group_doc=15\/1424259312-MarcusAureliusMeditationstr.Casaubon1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Casaubon translation<\/a> which has 74 uses of <strong>opinion<\/strong> and none of them match the quote, either.<\/p>\n<p>The word <strong>truth <\/strong>appears 31 times (38 in Casaubon and 30 in Hays). Again, none of them match, even vaguely, the second part of the quote.<\/p>\n<p>Aurelius did say, several times that everything is opinion. He has some good epithets about opinion, including:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Socrates used to call the opinions of the many by the name of Lamiae, bugbears to frighten children. (XI: 23)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The universe is transformation: life is opinion. (IV:3)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But nothing matches the second part, even remotely. The word <strong>perspective<\/strong> doesn&#8217;t even appear in the Long or Casaubon translations, and only once in the <a href=\"http:\/\/seinfeld.co\/library\/meditations.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hays version<\/a>, where\u00a0he translates what Aurelius wrote as:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If anyone can refute me\u2014show me I\u2019m making a mistake or looking at things from the wrong perspective\u2014I\u2019ll gladly change. It\u2019s the truth I\u2019m after, and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance. (VI: 21)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It seems the epithet in the image is either <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Talk:Marcus_Aurelius\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a loose paraphrase<\/a> or someone conflating two\u00a0unrelated statements from different authors. Unfortunately, not even <a href=\"http:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Quote Investigator<\/a> has unravelled this one.<\/p>\n<p>I will comb through my modern translations of the Meditations to be sure, but I&#8217;ve pegged this one as another bad internet meme, Please remember most quotation sites are full of errors and mis-attributions. Be smart: verify the source before you share <em>any<\/em> alleged quotation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE Aug. 2022:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/checkyourfact.com\/2019\/10\/15\/fact-check-marcus-aurelius-opinion-fact-perspective-truth-quote\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CheckYourFact.com<\/a> agrees with me:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;nowhere in <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=-KFFDQNxEYcC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=meditations+marcus+aurelius+12&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwic772Vn53lAhWEv1kKHSnmAPoQ6AEwAnoECAcQAg#v=onepage&amp;q=%22Everything%20we%20hear%20is%20an%20opinion%22&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this work<\/a>, or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=ml8uWRje49IC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=marcus+aurelius+collected&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj1m8aCoJ3lAhVpUd8KHcfFDNAQ6AEwBHoECAQQAg#v=onepage&amp;q=%22Everything%20we%20hear%20is%20an%20opinion%22&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">any<\/a>\u00a0of Aurelius\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=ixiUjgEACAAJ&amp;dq=marcus+aurelius+writings&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj4w5GsoJ3lAhXpmOAKHc3nAnYQ6AEwBnoECAEQAg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">other<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Essential-Aurelius-Tarcher-Cornerstone-Editions-ebook\/dp\/B0010O922W\">writings<\/a>, did the Daily Caller News Foundation find the quote attributed to him in the Facebook post. It appears to be apocryphal.<br \/>\n\u201cThat\u2019s a fake quote,\u201d said Donald Robertson, author of \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/How-Think-Like-Roman-Emperor\/dp\/1250196620\/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8\">How to Think Like a Roman Emperor: The Stoic Philosophy of Marcus Aurelius<\/a>,\u201d in an email to the DCNF.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So does <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2019\/sep\/26\/viral-image\/no-marcus-aurelius-didnt-say-about-opinions-and-fa\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Politifact.com<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Marcus Aurelius\u2019s view wasn\u2019t that there are no facts. Rather, he believed there are facts but that properly understood, none of the facts of the external world should disturb us.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Marcus_Aurelius\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wikiquote.org<\/a> (which shares many authentic quotations from <em>Meditations<\/em>), notes this phrase is&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Cited as being from The Meditations. This quote does not exist there; although there are several other statements about everything being an opinion, none of these are connected to a sentence about perspectives.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And finally, a blogger wrote about another falsely-attributed quote from Marcus Aurelius on <a href=\"http:\/\/threeshoutsonahilltop.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/marcus-aurelius-and-source-checking.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Three Shouts From a Hilltop<\/a>, saying,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;herein is the problem with not cross checking your sources to see if the person you are quoting, actually said what you&#8217;re attributing to them. Even a quick Google search will turn up the fact that the quote is uncertain in origin, and only mistakenly attributed to Marcus Aurelius.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_15134\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"15134\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>An image appeared on my Facebook feed one day purporting to be a quotation taken from the Roman emperor and philosopher, Marcus Aurelius. Having read his Meditations more than once in multiple translations, I was baffled because it didn&#8217;t look at all familiar or even sound like him. But was it a new translation? The quote is: Everything we hear is a opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. It&#8217;s a good line, even if a tautology (the statement is itself an opinion), but I can&#8217;t find it in any online version of the \u2026&#8230;&#8230; click below for more \u2193<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_hide_featured_image":false,"_jetpack_featured_image_duplicate_dismissed":0,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[8,261,73,69],"tags":[748,121,75,122],"class_list":["post-15134","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books","category-critical-thinking-2","category-language-grammar","category-internet-memes","tag-fake-news","tag-internet-meme","tag-language","tag-misquote"],"a3_pvc":{"activated":true,"total_views":47747,"today_views":1},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15134","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15134"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15134\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29055,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15134\/revisions\/29055"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15134"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15134"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15134"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}