{"id":15373,"date":"2015-11-08T09:27:01","date_gmt":"2015-11-08T14:27:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/?p=15373"},"modified":"2015-11-08T09:27:01","modified_gmt":"2015-11-08T14:27:01","slug":"proportional-representation-in-canada","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/proportional-representation-in-canada\/","title":{"rendered":"Proportional Representation in Canada"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_15373\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"15373\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>[youtube=https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=laUPeXZlPEg]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Another Canadian election has gone by where the majority government<\/strong> is formed by a party winning only 40% of the popular vote. This has political watchers and pundits increasingly vocal about changing the electoral system. But most of them agree it needs changing.<\/p>\n<p>So far, however, the Liberals are mum on how their campaign promise to reform our electoral system will be implemented. And while I have faith our new Prime Minister will be true to his word, since it will come from a\u00a0committee effort, one can only wonder what sort of camel that horse will be.<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">*<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Over the past few years, I have become increasingly interested in election reform and the institution of a better, more equitable and more democratic form of representation. With the passage of the voter control legislation by the Harper Conservatives &#8211; a law that represses voter participation in our democracy, rather than encouraging it &#8211; I became concerned that unless we change the system, we are doomed to continuing abuses in our less-than-representational governments.<\/p>\n<p>However, I have yet to see proposed a system that, in my mind, works efficiently. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Proportional_representation\" target=\"_blank\">Proportional voting<\/a> has three distinct methods, and a couple more sub-methods, none of which strike me as entirely satisfactory. But all seem more fair than our current method in giving Canadians real representation. <a href=\"http:\/\/campaign2015.fairvote.ca\/proportional-representation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fair Vote Canada<\/a> notes the goal of proportional representation is&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;to balance the benefits of introducing some element of proportionality with the capacity to maintain accountable government, most notably as a direct link between elected politicians and their constituents.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Back in 2007, there was <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ontario_electoral_reform_referendum,_2007\" target=\"_blank\">a referendum in Ontario for a mixed-member\u00a0proportional system<\/a>. It failed (36.9%) to garner the support, probably because the proposed system was simply too damned complicated. Selling a new voting method to the public is never going to be easy easy, but this one sank itself by being so hard to articulate. Plus the process of explaining (and selling) it was poorly organized. As <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ontario_electoral_reform_referendum,_2007\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia<\/a> notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A June Environics poll showed that 70% of those polled were not familiar with the proposal, including over 50% who knew nothing at all about the upcoming referendum&#8230;\u00a0Citizens were expected to get the information they needed from various websites or from the press. Remarkably, although the Citizens&#8217; Assembly had produced a shorter version of their report and a short leaflet further summarizing it, Elections Ontario distributed neither, to the surprise and disappointment of the Citizens&#8217; Assembly.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As it notes on the <a href=\"http:\/\/campaign2015.fairvote.ca\/proportional-representation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fair Vote Canada site<\/a>, there&#8217;s more than a change to to way we count votes in a proportional method:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>PR Systems MUST have multi-member districts: One key feature of PR voting systems is that they use electoral districts that elect two or more MPs. PR-list and STV do this by combining current single member ridings into larger multi-member ridings. If five ridings are combined into one, then all voters in that new riding will help elect 5 MPs for that riding.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Recreating election districts for the whole nation is not an inexpensive proposition. Plus I expect it to be fraught with controversy as such changes in the past have been. However, I trust the pain will be worth the gain in strengthening our democracy.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Canada &#8211; at all levels of government, including\u00a0municipalities with ward systems<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">**<\/span>\u00a0&#8211; uses the traditional &#8216;first past the post&#8217; system where the winner of any riding wins. That person doesn&#8217;t need to win a majority, just get more votes than the second-highest candidate. Hence the problem: the popular vote doesn&#8217;t count for anything in the counting.<\/p>\n<p>For example, in my own riding of Simcoe Grey, in 2015 Conservative MP Kellie Leitch won with 46.5% of the vote. More people voted against her than for her. But she won nonetheless, and all those other votes cast are lost, a situation replicated across Canada in every riding.<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Using the current system, the seat counts came in at:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Liberals: 184<\/li>\n<li>Conservatives: 99<\/li>\n<li>NDP: 44<\/li>\n<li>BQ: 10<\/li>\n<li>Green: 1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>However, if the seats were given out according to the percentage of the popular vote each party received, the results would be:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Liberals: 135<\/li>\n<li>Conservatives:\u00a0108<\/li>\n<li>NDP:\u00a068<\/li>\n<li>BQ: 17<\/li>\n<li>Green: 10<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Which would mean a minority Liberal government, not a majority. And therein lies the problem:\u00a0governments never want to give up power, and are loathe to change to a system that could undermine their strength. Will Trudeau&#8217;s Liberals support a system that might see them in a minority position next election?<\/p>\n<p>Passing contentious or controversial legislation or budgets is difficult to impossible without a majority. But for Canadians, there are distinct advantages to minority or coalition governments.<\/p>\n<p>First is that very Canadian trait of <strong>compromise<\/strong>. Coalitions and minorities simply have to compromise with others to get things done. Working together is not easy, and for some of the larger parties it may be impossible. But for others &#8211; the Green Party for example &#8211; it is\u00a0a better way to have their voice heard in legislation.<\/p>\n<p>Second is how laws get passed. Right now, if a budget fails, the government falls. That, too, must change, because we may see few majority governments under a new electoral\u00a0system in future. Under a proportional system, if the budget fails, well then the government has to go back to their desks and hammer out one that will pass. Which means compromise.<\/p>\n<p>Compromise means that the non-ideologues among us (including me) also have better representation. Yes, the ideologues will get shirty and stick their heads in the sand rather than compromise. But that&#8217;s always been the case. Wiser, cooler heads will see the advantages.<\/p>\n<p>I am a political agnostic in that I have no faith in any particular party or platform. I have attitudes about issues, about finances, about taxes and so on that sound like they are cherry-picked from each of the four major parties, but owe no totality to any. I suspect there are many more people like me out there who don&#8217;t personally adhere\u00a0a party line, but rather have a broader view of Canada and the world that the narrow confines of party ideology allow. Proportional representation will allow our wide political spectrum to be better expressed than the current system. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">****<\/span><\/p>\n<p>We need to have a better electoral system and we need it soon. What that system will look like, I cannot say, only hope that it will be more horse than camel.<\/p>\n<p><strong>~~~~~<\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">*<\/span> The old saw being that a camel is a horse designed by committee.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">**<\/span> At-large systems, like Collingwood&#8217;s, are rare. There are arguments whether they serve the electorate better or worse than ward systems.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">***<\/span> There were 97,145 people eligible to vote here, but only 65,393 did so; a third of voters opting out. If you count eligible voters, then Leitch won with only 31%. This is one reason Canada needs a law to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Compulsory_voting\" target=\"_blank\">make voting mandatory<\/a>, like Australia and 21 other countries have. If you don&#8217;t want to vote, you can choose to pay a fine instead.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">****<\/span>\u00a0I share\u00a0some small-c conservative ideas about taxes, deficits and debts that fit with\u00a0the Conservative\u00a0financial platform, but my attitudes about immigration, women&#8217;s issues, aboriginals, veterans, science, environment, international relations, the military and other areas did not. But no other party&#8217;s platform was a complete fit, either. The current electoral system is an all-or-nothing method that doesn&#8217;t allow such shades of attitude. You get the bad with the good.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_15373\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"15373\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>[youtube=https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=laUPeXZlPEg] Another Canadian election has gone by where the majority government is formed by a party winning only 40% of the popular vote. This has political watchers and pundits increasingly vocal about changing the electoral system. But most of them agree it needs changing. So far, however, the Liberals are mum on how their campaign promise to reform our electoral system will be implemented. And while I have faith our new Prime Minister will be true to his word, since it will come from a\u00a0committee effort, one can only wonder what sort of camel that horse will be.* Over the \u2026&#8230;&#8230; click below for more \u2193<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_hide_featured_image":false,"_jetpack_featured_image_duplicate_dismissed":0,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[11,62,281],"tags":[384,61,639],"class_list":["post-15373","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-federal-and-provincial-politics","category-world-politics","category-provincial-politics","tag-canada","tag-politics","tag-proportional-representation"],"a3_pvc":{"activated":true,"total_views":6588,"today_views":0},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15373","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15373"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15373\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15428,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15373\/revisions\/15428"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15373"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15373"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15373"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}