{"id":3397,"date":"2013-01-09T18:29:19","date_gmt":"2013-01-09T23:29:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/?p=3397"},"modified":"2013-01-09T18:29:19","modified_gmt":"2013-01-09T23:29:19","slug":"more-machiavellian-misquotes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/more-machiavellian-misquotes\/","title":{"rendered":"More Machiavellian Misquotes"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_3397\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"3397\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/twimg0-a.akamaihd.net\/profile_images\/1585149565\/face-palm-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Face palm\" \/><strong>Machiavelli today is known to many<\/strong> by sayings that aren&#8217;t actually his; pseudo-quotations or mis-attributed sayings that appear on slovenly, un-moderated, un-verified websites that do an enormous disservice to everyone by their very existence.<\/p>\n<p>These sites seem to feed one another, because find one misquote on one of them and you&#8217;re sure to find it parroted without even the slightest effort to verify it, on all the rest. Since these sites are predominantly about ad revenue, it&#8217;;s little wonder they are so poor.<\/p>\n<p>Most people are unable to discern the wheat from the chaff ion these sites in great part because\u00a0few can actually lay claim to actually having read him (<em>The Prince<\/em>, let alone <em>The Discourses<\/em> or his other works). And from that stems several misconceptions about what he said and didn\u2019t say (and the same goes to every other author and philosopher so frequently misquoted on these sites).<\/p>\n<p>Machiavelli did <em><strong>not<\/strong><\/em> write, for example, \u2018the end justifies the means.\u2019 It is a modern condensation \u2013 and a considerable simplification \u2013 of an idea expressed in <em>The Prince<\/em>. However memorable it is, he had a lot more to say about politics and the behaviour of rulers than that one line.<\/p>\n<p>Machiavelli was just being a realist. He certainly was not a hedonist like Aleister Crowley who wrote,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cDo what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>[pullquote]These so-called quotation databases are rife with errors, mis-attributions, mis-spellings, grammatical and punctuation errors.[\/pullquote]Machiavelli wrote that the effect of a ruler\u2019s actions mattered more than the deeds themselves, as long as the end was good for the state. That has been boiled down, in modern times, into &#8220;the end justifies the means.&#8221; But this shorthand removes it from the all-important context that makes sense of his words (taking things out of context and using them for your own, bizarre ends is quite common on the internet).<\/p>\n<p>Nor did Machiavelli write, \u2018Never to attempt to win by force what can be won by deception,\u2019 in <em>The Prince<\/em>. That may be paraphrased from <em>The Discourses, Book III: 40<\/em>, or <em>Book II: 13<\/em>. It is more likely to derive from an entirely different source: <em>The Art of War<\/em> by Sun-Tzu. This misquote is popular on those faux-quote sites, but it isn&#8217;t one of his maxims. I <a title=\"Earlier blog post\" href=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/this-time-its-a-machiavellian-mis-quote\/\">wrote about that mis-quote<\/a> last year. It still irks me to see it online today.<\/p>\n<p>In the comment following that previous post, I wrote about another popular &#8211; and very wrong &#8211; internet meme attributed to Machiavelli: &#8220;I\u2019m not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That line was actually said by US Republican Newt Gringrich, and is taken from a 1991 interview printed in the LA Times:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Such jabs don\u2019t faze Gingrich. \u201cI\u2019m not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it,\u201d he says. \u201cOf course people are going to resent that.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Other things Machiavelli did<strong> NOT<\/strong> say include the following pseudo-quotes taken from various, inaccurate, un-moderated and never verified, quotation sites online. I spent a couple of hours yesterday poring over my texts to search for them, just to be sure. It&#8217;s tricky because there are so many translations available, but anyone who has actually read any of them will recognize fairly easily what is and is not his style:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;Politics have no relation to morals.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The wise man does at once what the fool does finally.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Before all else, be armed.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>\u201cHistory is written by the victors.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cOne should never fall in the belief that you can find someone to pick you up.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cGod creates men, but they choose each other.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cPrinces and governments are far more dangerous than other elements within society.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cA prince is also esteemed when he is a true friend and a true enemy.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;He who blinded by ambition, raises himself to a position whence he cannot mount higher, must thereafter fall with the greatest loss.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;War is just when it is necessary; arms are permissible when there is no hope except in arms.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Got that? Machiavelli <strong>NEVER SAID<\/strong> any of those things, yet all appear on many online quotation database pages. They cause me a face-palm moment to even read them (more on my Machiavelli book site and learn what he really said: <a title=\"My Machiavelli book site\" href=\"http:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/machiavelli\/addenda\/appendix-b-machiavellian-misquotes\/\" target=\"_blank\">ianchadwick.com\/machiavelli\/addenda\/appendix-b-machiavellian-misquotes\/<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, there are many who will get fooled into thinking these are real quotations from Machiavelli and other authors. But these so-called quotation databases are rife with errors, mis-attributions, mis-spellings, grammatical and punctuation errors; enough that even a casual read should give anyone pause to doubt the veracity. These sites are as reliable to literature as creationism is to science, without being as funny.<\/p>\n<p>These egregious errors exacerbate the bad education people get from the internet; they also speak volumes to the increasing gullibility of web users who will accept clearly mis-attributed lines with the same ease they will believe <a title=\"Wikipedia on quackery\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Magnet_therapy\" target=\"_blank\">magnets cure<\/a> arthritis, <a title=\"Skeptic's Dictionary\" href=\"http:\/\/www.skepdic.com\/crystals.html\" target=\"_blank\">crystals are magi,<\/a>\u00a0flu <a title=\"Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Thiomersal_controversy\" target=\"_blank\">vaccinations cause autism<\/a>\u00a0and other quackery.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_3397\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"3397\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" version=\"1.0\" viewBox=\"0 0 502 315\" preserveAspectRatio=\"xMidYMid meet\"><g transform=\"translate(0,332) scale(0.1,-0.1)\" fill=\"\" stroke=\"none\"><path d=\"M2394 3279 l-29 -30 -3 -207 c-2 -182 0 -211 15 -242 39 -76 157 -76 196 0 15 31 17 60 15 243 l-3 209 -33 29 c-26 23 -41 29 -80 29 -41 0 -53 -5 -78 -31z\"\/><path d=\"M3085 3251 c-45 -19 -58 -50 -96 -229 -47 -217 -49 -260 -13 -295 52 -53 146 -42 177 20 16 31 87 366 87 410 0 70 -86 122 -155 94z\"\/><path d=\"M1751 3234 c-13 -9 -29 -31 -37 -50 -12 -29 -10 -49 21 -204 19 -94 39 -189 45 -210 14 -50 54 -80 110 -80 34 0 48 6 76 34 21 21 34 44 34 59 0 14 -18 113 -40 219 -37 178 -43 195 -70 221 -36 32 -101 37 -139 11z\"\/><path d=\"M1163 3073 c-36 -7 -73 -59 -73 -102 0 -56 133 -378 171 -413 34 -32 83 -37 129 -13 70 36 67 87 -16 290 -86 209 -89 214 -129 231 -35 14 -42 15 -82 7z\"\/><path d=\"M3689 3066 c-15 -9 -33 -30 -42 -48 -48 -103 -147 -355 -147 -375 0 -98 131 -148 192 -74 13 15 57 108 97 206 80 196 84 226 37 273 -30 30 -99 39 -137 18z\"\/><path d=\"M583 2784 c-38 -19 -67 -74 -58 -113 9 -42 211 -354 242 -373 16 -10 45 -18 66 -18 51 0 107 52 107 100 0 39 -1 41 -124 234 -80 126 -108 162 -133 173 -41 17 -61 16 -100 -3z\"\/><path d=\"M4250 2784 c-14 -9 -74 -91 -133 -183 -95 -150 -107 -173 -107 -213 0 -55 33 -94 87 -104 67 -13 90 8 211 198 130 202 137 225 78 284 -27 27 -42 34 -72 34 -22 0 -50 -8 -64 -16z\"\/><path d=\"M2275 2693 c-553 -48 -1095 -270 -1585 -649 -135 -104 -459 -423 -483 -476 -23 -49 -22 -139 2 -186 73 -142 361 -457 571 -626 285 -228 642 -407 990 -497 242 -63 336 -73 660 -74 310 0 370 5 595 52 535 111 1045 392 1455 803 122 121 250 273 275 326 19 41 19 137 0 174 -41 79 -309 363 -465 492 -447 370 -946 591 -1479 653 -113 14 -422 18 -536 8z m395 -428 c171 -34 330 -124 456 -258 112 -119 167 -219 211 -378 27 -96 24 -300 -5 -401 -72 -255 -236 -447 -474 -557 -132 -62 -201 -76 -368 -76 -167 0 -236 14 -368 76 -213 98 -373 271 -451 485 -162 444 86 934 547 1084 153 49 292 57 452 25z m909 -232 c222 -123 408 -262 593 -441 76 -74 138 -139 138 -144 0 -16 -233 -242 -330 -319 -155 -123 -309 -223 -461 -299 l-81 -41 32 46 c18 26 49 83 70 128 143 306 141 649 -6 957 -25 52 -61 116 -79 142 l-34 47 45 -20 c26 -10 76 -36 113 -56z m-2057 25 c-40 -58 -105 -190 -130 -263 -110 -324 -59 -707 132 -981 25 -35 42 -64 37 -64 -19 0 -241 119 -326 174 -188 122 -406 314 -532 468 l-58 71 108 103 c185 178 428 349 672 473 66 33 121 60 123 61 2 0 -10 -19 -26 -42z\"\/><path d=\"M2375 1950 c-198 -44 -350 -190 -395 -379 -18 -76 -8 -221 19 -290 114 -284 457 -406 731 -260 98 52 188 154 231 260 27 69 37 214 19 290 -38 163 -166 304 -326 360 -67 23 -215 33 -279 19z\"\/><\/g><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p>Machiavelli today is known to many by sayings that aren&#8217;t actually his; pseudo-quotations or mis-attributed sayings that appear on slovenly, un-moderated, un-verified websites that do an enormous disservice to everyone by their very existence. These sites seem to feed one another, because find one misquote on one of them and you&#8217;re sure to find it parroted without even the slightest effort to verify it, on all the rest. Since these sites are predominantly about ad revenue, it&#8217;;s little wonder they are so poor. Most people are unable to discern the wheat from the chaff ion these sites in great part \u2026&#8230;&#8230; click below for more \u2193<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[155,8,261,204,73,223,69,203],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3397","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-balderdash-and-hoaxes","category-books","category-critical-thinking-2","category-internet-social-media","category-language-grammar","category-literary-pretensions","category-internet-memes","category-quotesmis-quotes"],"a3_pvc":{"activated":true,"total_views":21385,"today_views":0},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3397","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3397"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3397\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3409,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3397\/revisions\/3409"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ianchadwick.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}